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Sara and Erin Foster are, simply put, sister goals. The duo is behind the clothing brand Favorite Daughter, the hugely popular Netflix show Nobody Wants This<\/em>, their podcast World\u2019s First Podcast<\/em> and are now fronting skin-care brand Dermalogica\u2019s latest campaign for its hero product, Daily Microfoliant ($69).<\/p>\n The gentle powder exfoliator\u2014activated with water\u2014is the number-one powder exfoliant in the U.S., with one selling every 21 seconds. Made with rice powder enzymes, salicylic acid and rice bran, the formula also contains colloidal oatmeal and alphahydroxy acids (AHAs) to gently brighten and smooth skin.<\/p>\n To celebrate the partnership, we sat down with Erin and Sara, who shared everything from what Hollywood gets wrong about aging to what they wish they had learned about skin care when they were younger\u2014and, of course, what they imagine the skin-care routines of the Nobody Wants This<\/em> sisters Joanne and Morgan might look like.<\/p>\n Erin Foster:<\/strong> \u201cI\u2019m really a minimalist. So I wake up in the morning. If I have it in me to go downstairs and make my daughter milk before she wakes up, I\u2019m really impressed with myself. Or else, I\u2019m kind of juggling her and doing that at the same time, and then while she\u2019s drinking her milk, I hightail it to the bathroom to wash my face, put on moisturizer and brush my teeth. Typically, in the morning, I\u2019m just putting on a face oil and a moisturizer. I like to exfoliate at night. I exfoliate at night with the Daily Microfoliant. I do it three times a week before I go to bed, because on the other two nights I\u2019m putting on tretinoin. Very simple. So I\u2019m either doing tretinoin, or I\u2019m doing the Daily Microfoliant.<\/p>\n There\u2019s something about a foaming product that feels very luxurious. I also really love that the Daily Microfoliant has a little travel size ($19.50). Not a lot of brands make a good travel size for a product. And my husband steals mine all the time.\u201d<\/p>\n Sara Foster:<\/strong> \u201cI feel like we were lied to about actives and needing so many ingredients and needing a 20-step routine. I\u2019ve done all that, and my skin doesn\u2019t react well to it. I now know I have sensitive skin. I really keep it simple. I do all my skin care at night. I love the Microfoliant because I always say it \u2018washes the day away,\u2019 and it just preps my skin for moisture.<\/p>\n I wake up pretty early at 6:30 or 6:45 a.m. My kids go to two different schools. I\u2019m packing lunches, packing snacks, doing hair, picking out outfits, arguing with my 15-year-old about whether she\u2019ll get her phone in the morning, then dropping one off and then the other. And then a full day of work and juggling all the things. <\/p>\n I do my vitamins and all my skin care at night. I don\u2019t wash my face in the morning. I\u2019m like, \u2018What am I washing off?\u2019 Also, nothing penetrates your skin if you haven\u2019t prepped it properly. At night, you really do need to do that with the Microfoliant too. It\u2019s not harsh. It\u2019s really good for people with sensitive skin.\u201d<\/p>\n <\/center> <\/p>\n EF:<\/strong> \u201cMoisturizer. I\u2019m obsessed with not feeling dry, so I always have my bag filled with hand creams and moisturizers. Dry skin just ages you.\u201d<\/p>\n SF:<\/strong> \u201cSunscreen. I\u2019m now at a point where I do not forget my sunscreen. I really notice a difference when I look at how many hours a day I spend in the car. I have a UVA-blocking window tint on my car, but it\u2019s not enough, because you can\u2019t do the windshield. I\u2019m not one of those freaks, but I really do try to never forget my sunscreen now.\u201d<\/p>\n SF:<\/strong> \u201cLess is more. I wish that I had been told earlier that less is more. We think in our minds, as I said before, that the more you do, the better you\u2019re going to look. If you do 20 steps, then you\u2019re going to look 20 times better. And I now know that that\u2019s not true, at least for my skin type. <\/p>\n For sensitive skin, when I am doing less, keeping it simple and using trusted products that we know work (science-backed and real efficacy), it\u2019s a three-step process. My skin is plumper. The elastin is more bouncy. It\u2019s brighter. It\u2019s just better. If I\u2019m only going to do three steps, I\u2019m going to exfoliate, because that\u2019s like the cleanser. I don\u2019t cleanse after the exfoliator. Some people might, but for me, that\u2019s enough. It\u2019s dewy enough, and it does its job. Then I use moisturizer and sunscreen.\u201d<\/p>\n EF:<\/strong> \u201cFood. What you eat and drink really affects you. And so people are always thinking topically, but you have to think internally. The stuff that you\u2019re polluting your body with really comes out in your skin. I really notice a difference with supplements and food and alcohol; all that stuff really comes through in your skin.\u201d<\/p>\n SF:<\/strong> \u201cWhen Valentina [Sara\u2019s daughter] eats a lot of sugar, her acne gets worse. And we know it, we\u2019ve been told this, but we forget sometimes. I\u2019m remembering all these skin-care things. Now, having a 15-year-old who\u2019s at that age, I\u2019m reminded of all the things that I did wrong.\u201d<\/p>\n SF:<\/strong> \u201cI feel like Joanne\u2019s not washing her makeup off at the end of the night. She\u2019s just maybe going to bed.\u201d<\/p>\n EF:<\/strong> \u201cSara, you think so low of her. This is crazy. She\u2019s not dirty.\u201d<\/p>\n SF: <\/strong>\u201cNo, it\u2019s not that she\u2019s dirty. It\u2019s just carefree. But the writer disagrees. So tell us.\u201d<\/p>\n EF:<\/strong> \u201cI think that Morgan would be much more focused on the newest, coolest product. Morgan\u2019s doing a red light mask every night, and Joanne loses hers and doesn\u2019t know where her charger, is so she can\u2019t use it.\u201d<\/p>\n SF:<\/strong> \u201cShe doesn\u2019t even know how it works.\u201d<\/p>\n EF:<\/strong> \u201cYeah, Joanne says she\u2019s gonna do that stuff, and then forgets to do it. But Morgan is like, \u2018I\u2019m not gonna forget my routine.\u2019 And Esther gets too many lasers, too many procedures. She just would be going into a bunch of med spas and saying, \u2018Give me the works.\u2019 Esther is the person that, at some point, the girls would have to be like, \u2018You need to chill in the lasers. You\u2019re doing too much.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n EF:<\/strong> \u201cI think it\u2019s really great for people to have resources to help them look youthful. It used to be that you wanted to get work done that made you look like yourself, but younger. Now it\u2019s acceptable to get work done that makes you look like an alien, and people are totally okay with that. People aren\u2019t striving for the natural look anymore. I just wish the natural look were still more in vogue. Being dishonest about it really bums me out, because it really makes women feel bad about themselves.\u201d<\/p>\n SF:<\/strong> \u201cNow we have this whole generation growing up where, and I find myself doing this, I\u2019ll look at women who are in their 40s or early 50s, and I\u2019ll be like, \u2018How are they aging so well? What are they doing? I don\u2019t understand. How are their cheekbones so high? And how do they have zero jowls? Like, what am I doing wrong?\u2019 And then someone will be like, \u2018Are you insane? They\u2019ve had two facelifts.\u2019<\/p>\n I\u2019m somebody who\u2019s very confident for the most part, and even I find myself in this loop of feeling kind of bad about myself because I\u2019m comparing myself to people who I think are doing it just \u2018the right way.\u2019 But then I come to find out they\u2019ve had two facelifts. But they don\u2019t say they\u2019ve had two facelifts. They just say, \u2018Yeah, I wake up early, I work out and I\u2019m very hydrated.\u2019 And I\u2019m like, \u2018Wait, what?\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n This interview has been edited for length and clarity.<\/em><\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\nWalk us through your morning routines and your skin-care routines.<\/h2>\n
What\u2019s one skin-care step you\u2019ll never skip?<\/h2>\n
Do you have any skin-care secrets you\u2019ve learned and wish you knew sooner?<\/h2>\n
We\u2019re sitting in front of the vanity with Joanne, Morgan and Esther from \u2018Nobody Wants This.\u2019 Walk us through their skin-care philosophy and what you think their skin-care routine looks like.<\/h2>\n
Is there anything about beauty and aging you wish were reflected more honestly in Hollywood and on-screen?<\/h2>\n